From: John Murtari (jmurtari@AKidsRight.org)
Date: Mon Aug 11 2008 - 21:55:43 EDT
All the information in our messages is FREE for reuse as you desire. Subscribe/unsubscribe info at end. ========================================= Good People & People of Faith, A few quick updates: 1. Support? SYSTEM DOWN - Aug 13th in New York, Aug 14th in Texas 2. DC Festival 2008 - Event Details (Aug 14th-15th) 3. DC Festival 2008 - Purpose & Direction? 1. Support? SYSTEM DOWN - Aug 13th in New York, Aug 14th in Texas ----------------------------------------------------------------- Many of you already knew of the showing planned in Lyons, New York, but there is another showing also planned for Plano, Texas on the 14th. Summary details for both events (details also available at the Movie web site http://www.SupportTheMovie.com/). August 14, 2008 -- SUPPORT? will be showing at the Angelika Film Center in Plano (near Dallas), Texas from 7:00pm - 9:00pm. Admission will be $8.00. A microphone will be set up for discussion following the showing. Phone: 972-943-1300 Jim Loose, who appears in the movie, is a Texas native and has been a long time promoter of Family Rights. For more details you can visit the web site http://www.pepintexas.org/ -- "People for Equal Parenting in Texas" Theater details: http://www.angelikafilmcenter.com/index.asp?hID=8774&page=ANGELIKA%20HOMEPAGE August 13, 2008 -- SUPPORT? will be showing at the Ohmann Theatre in Lyons (between Rochester/Syracuse), New York at 7:00 pm. Admission will be $5.00. Phone: 315-430-2702 Theater details: http://www.ohmanntheatre.com/index.html New's Release from Aginelo Productions -------------------------------------- "I'm a dad, not a wallet." What may prompt millions of non-custodial dads to say this phrase or at least think it? How is it that millions of children of divorce or separation may wonder why they can't see their beloved Dad, or sometimes Mom, more than 4 to 6 days a month, if that? These are just two of the important questions raised by Angelo Lobo, Producer and Director of the full-length documentary "Support System Down," which examines problems within the nation's child support system. Lobo's film "Support System Down" comes to the Ohmann Theatre in Lyons, New York on August 13, 2008 starting at 7 pm, EDT and to the Angelika Film Center in Plano, Texas on August 14, 2008 at 7 pm, CDT. The film contends that many fathers, and some mothers, can't even get their "visitation" court orders enforced. The system's unfairness can also affect our military men and women. Parents want equal parenting not "visitor" status. Most parents don't have to be convinced to do the right thing in supporting their children; they already are willing and able to do that. Nevertheless, many believe that the family court and child support systems treat them and their families unjustly. The children suffer the most. "We created this film to expose the serious unfairness in the system in order to help effect positive change for millions of families men, women, and children. The situation is beyond absurd. We have loving, fit fathers, who want to be there and support their children, who are unfairly prevented from doing so. On the other hand, we have men proven by DNA testing not to be the dad, yet they are forced to financially support children they may not even know and did not father," said Lobo. Angelo Lobo hopes his film can contribute greatly to the effort of raising nationwide public awareness. "Both mothers and fathers are tired of being unfairly vilified, pursued and stereotyped when it comes to financial child support. They say it doesn't help their children or families when the main breadwinner is devastated, humiliated, threatened, or constantly pursued by a misguided and ill-informed system. Unfair, illogical, harsh, punitive measures against alleged nonpayers, such as lifting driver's and professional licenses and jail, are not helping children and families," said Lobo. "I wanted to convey these loving parents' stories in a compelling way and to give these parents a powerful voice. Children want and need both parents in their lives. Children suffer and miss their parents when they're unjustly separated from them following divorce or family breakup. They need adequate time with both parents, which often doesn't happen in our current system," said Lobo. For information or to book Angelo Lobo for interviews, visit http://www.supportthemovie.com , call (888)881-3118 or (760)889-8815, or email info@supportthemovie.com Subscribe: free e-mail mailing list at http://www.supportthemovie.com To receive announcements about "Support? System Down" View trailers: http://www.supportthemovie.com/trailers/ Additional Info if you would like to do a local showing: ------------------------------------------------------- There were a few questions and a concern regarding our recent message on the movie, "Support? SYSTEM DOWN" -- if you need to reference that message is archived at: http://www.AKidsRight.Org/archive/archive2008/0021.html Here are a few quick answers: > I'm a bit concerned about a Movie that features a former President > of NOW (Karen DeCrow)? Ms. DeCrow was president of NOW from 1974-1977. She disagrees with the bias of the present family court system and supports two parent involvement and shared parenting. You can go to Glenn Sack's website for a nice background article with info about her: http://www.glennsacks.com/now_at_40.htm > How do we set up for a local airing? What is needed? You can just contact the producer, Mr. Angelo Lobo, directly by either email (info@SupportTheMovie.com) or toll free at 888-881-3118. Most theaters will allow you to rent their facility for a reasonable rate (and provide staff to take tickets, run the movie). You set the ticket prices and keep whatever is made and arrange some sharing with the Producer. The Movie is on DVD and could be shown anywhere as a group fund-raiser, again, contact Angelo directly to work out details. Angelo is a very nice guy and I'm sure he will follow up with and answer any questions you have. > Are there to be any showings in California or is the movie available > for purchase? There was a showing in California a few months ago which we announced on the list. We'll try to announce any other showings. It is not available on DVD yet for purchase. If you know of a group that wants to show the movie it's fairly easy to do (see above). 2. DC Festival 2008 - Event Details ----------------------------------- The DC Festival begins later this week. The link below is the primary event website: http://dcfestival2008.com/ Submitted by: "Torm Howse" <indianacrc@earthlink.net> There are also many other things going on - too much to even try and list. The Master Schedule is here: http://www.editgrid.com/user/indianacrc/DCFestival2008 ... We are connecting our family rights issues, with the people of faith, community, government, industry, music, and general public, who all live, work, and play in the DC area... every day of the year. We are surgically implanting family rights and parental rights, permanently, into the thinking capital of the world.. If you plan to be at the DC Festival, you will also be interested in the three links just below: (AutoReminder: EVERYBODY will be at http://tinyurl.com/6rl7r2) (aerial + hotels + ridesharing details at http://tinyurl.com/6e58ts) (Volunteer for Better Success! click http://tinyurl.com/5o8pbh) Regards, ------------------------------------------ Torm Howse National Board Director, United Civil Rights Councils of America http://unitedcivilrights.org 3. DC Festival 2008 - Purpose & Direction? ------------------------------------------ "Effort & Courage are not enough without Purpose & Direction." President John F. Kennedy As many of you know, I'm a bit believer in open communication and the ability to disagree without 'character assassination'. Many people bemoan the lack of unity in our effort; and I firmly believe that is a product of 'us' being against the present system, but not really have a clear vision of what the solution is ... something we are all for. In a combination of distance, expense, and lack of motivation, I won't be in DC for the Festival this weekend. I had some questions and concerns that perhaps some of you may share and I think the email exchanges below provided some answers for all of us. --- To: "Lary Holland" <laryholland@sbcglobal.net> I was really ready to go to the Rally2008 and I had a lot of trust in Ron Smith and his ideals and goals. I'm getting ready to send out a list message on the topic and I'd like to include your thoughts to the following. Please, nothing confidential. I'm not in favor of the 'Big Tent' approach. I went to the Festival web site and I don't even know if we share the same goal -- the music talks about 'rights', but I don't even know what right that is? Do you even feel that is important? How about: To be presumed a FIT & EQUAL parent unless convicted in Criminal Court, with jury protection, of being a demonstrated serious threat to my kids and acting with malintent. Of course, that type of bold statement would mean that almost all the FLDS parents in Texas, and Britney Spears, and Alec Baldwin, and your former spouse, and YOU -- should be FIT & EQUAL (in time & responsibility of course) with your kids. What about that? I really hesitate at participating in a march lead by F-4-J and guys dressed up in purple combat fatigues. I think the play soldier stuff is completely counter message. Are you okay with guys in combat fatigues? Are "Fathers" the face of your/our movement? I've been to some 'open mike' DC events in the past and sometimes you get people who seem to have a pretty different goal? I don't know how we build an event from year to year when the people coming don't share the same goal. I don't think being against the current system is going to bring us together -- what are we for? --- Lary's thoughtful reply (my original message with '>' ): > To be presumed a FIT & EQUAL parent unless convicted in > Criminal Court, with jury protection, of being a demonstrated > serious threat to my kids and acting with malintent. Your Statements should extend into all areas of the family court reform, not just isolated into child custody, many people know that I advocate strongly for less government intrusion in many areas. This issue is the loudest because it is the most intrusive. I agree with your assessment. Unfortunately, I am still waiting for someone to write a great song that speaks only of one right, but let's face it... this is a civil rights movement, not just one right, but all rights. If you allow one to be infringed or intruded, you welcome all rights to be intruded or traded for something else. This is unacceptable in our society. Please take a moment and read both of these: http://www.scribd.com/doc/3970577/US-REPRESENTATIVE-PETE-HOEKSTRA-SUPPORTS-DC-FESTIVAL-2008 http://www.scribd.com/doc/3786978/State-Rep-John-Stahl-Supports-DC-FESTIVAL-2008 Our state, Michigan, is the only state that has a pending State Constitutional Amendment regarding part of this issue. It looks like our Equal Parenting Bill will die in committee. (HB4564) But, these are still validated efforts that must go forward, in fact ... The abolitionist party, the women's suffrage movement, etc. never got a candidate in place but they went through the motions and eventually achieved the results they were seeking. Further to your statements of Minister Ron Smith, he has my full support and he supports this movement and this event as does the ACFC and many other organizations, politicians, candidates, individuals, and everything in between. The reason being, we are a national civil rights movement supported by peaceful assembly and non-violent action. You can find Minister Ronald Smith's Letter of Support and he just was on our talk show tonight speaking that his son Ariel is likely going to be with him at the event which was one of the best things about the show tonight. This event is a catalyst to additional activity that will be shared post-election, what I refer to as a snow ball effect or "validation" exercise making each subsequent action easier. There are no short-term fixes, and this is a long-term effort. No big tents here, and many activities for children, activists, general public participation, and alliance building. We must narrow the differences between many groups, emphasizing on build a more solid social/political movement. http://www.laryholland.com/eightstages.html > Of course, that type of bold statement would mean that almost > all the FLDS parents in Texas, and Britney Spears, and Alec > Baldwin, and your former spouse, and YOU -- should be FIT & > EQUAL (in time & responsibility of course) with your kids. > What about that? I agree with your assessment, to the degree that there is an increased standard of proof in determining fitness. No less than Clear and Convincing evidence with a preference for Beyond a Reasonable Doubt. I believe that both parents should share equal roles in their children's lives, not in the form of equitable adjustment, but in actual equality. We work with people that we don't like on occasion and that should not inhibit our jobs, just like if our spouses/ex-spouses can not get along it should not interfere with their ability to raise their children. > really hesitate at participating in a march lead by F-4-J > and guys dressed up in purple combat fatigues. I think the > play soldier stuff is completely counter message. Are you > okay with guys in combat fatigues? Are "Fathers" the face > of your/our movement? As I am sure you are aware, the issues we face are comparable to a geodesic shape. You have to have people working at various levels on different aspects, punching so many holes into the system that it eventually cannot sustain its' own weight. This is an issue of choice, if you do not want to participate in the peaceful march there are simultaneous events happening at Upper Senate Park, the Hotel, and other locations. In much the same way that some would say... does it really make a difference writing with chalk? Some people say no, so they choose to work on other things, such as running for an office, engaging in other productive conduct that they have determined worthy of their time. Just as family court has fractured our families, groups continue to fracture themselves because of differences of opinions. This in itself is counterproductive to change. I watched a non-violent gun rights event in Michigan just in the past week, where 40 men walked out of a cafe with a sidearm on their outside, since it is legal and a permit is not required. They were educating the public that 2nd Amendment protections are alive and well, an exercise of citizenship. All civil liberties, civil rights, and hedonic liberties must be protected, exercised, and respected by government and society. I don't see any one "gender" or any one "class" or any one "race" being able to solve the social ills of todays' "insolvent" society. So, are father's the face of a movement? Fathers will make a difference, mothers will make a difference, grandparents will make a difference, aunts, uncles, and every label of society will make a difference that WILL LEAD TO CHANGE. I will not change a single thing in this world, but by chance I might make a difference combined with your efforts, the next persons efforts, and on and on, in an objective positive light. No one method is the only way. > I've been to some 'open mike' DC events in the past and > sometimes you get people who seem to have a pretty different > goal? I don't know how we build an event from year to year > when the people coming don't share the same goal. I don't > think being against the current system is going to bring us > together -- what are we for? There are multiple problems with the system. I agree with your assessment that we have to stop being "Anti" and start being "Proactive" instead of just reactive. Unfortunately we live in a society of what's in it for me? That is not the case with me, I live by a simple phrase in much of what I do... "It is infinitely more valuable to fight for the rights of others than to fight for your own." I hope you agree. I am nonviolent, objective, and determined to raise the activity level of all groups so that our children do not have to face the coming storm of government intrusion. It isn't just in family court, it is in most forms of government bureaucracy. --- To a leader of F-4-J: "Donald Tenn" <donald.tenn@ca.f4j.us> > I talked to Fred a few days ago and I like both of you guys, but > you've got to help me out with the 'combat fatigue' thing. I think > you know I don't like it, and I now I hear F-4-J is suppose to lead > the march for the DC Festival? In combat fatigues? I'll be honest, > that is not for me. I understand your opinion with regard to the "PEACE PANTS" as we have previously discussed your concerns. Personally I do not see a concern with PURPLE pants in any manner. Purple as you are aware is recognized as the International color for EQUALITY. When it comes to what our members wear, neither you nor I have any influence, nor would I want to assume any. I do however very much appreciate F4J members showing a sign of solidarity and that is what our gear does, it shows that we are UNITED in our efforts to affect the necessary changes within our corrupt judiciary. John, I am very happy that you are allowed the opportunity to share time with your son Domenic, there are many of us who do not see our children at all. With that said, let's put our minor differences behind us and move forward, UNITED towards our common enemy, the family courts. I wish you well, I wish you peace and most importantly rest assured that once we are UNITED... JUSTICE IS COMING!!! -- Donald -- John Murtari ____________________________________________________________________ Coordinator AKidsRight.Org jmurtari@AKidsRight.Org "A Kid's Right to BOTH parents" Toll Free (877) 635-1968(x-211) http://www.AKidsRight.Org/ ======================================= http://www.AKidsRight.Org/ A Kid's Right to Both Parents! ------ Newsletter mailing list Newsletter@kids-right.org subscribe/unsubscribe info below: http://kids-right.org/mailman/listinfo/newsletter
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